
{"id":244,"date":"2016-04-28T20:27:21","date_gmt":"2016-04-28T20:27:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/labs.la.utexas.edu\/gilden\/?page_id=244"},"modified":"2016-04-28T20:55:48","modified_gmt":"2016-04-28T20:55:48","slug":"is-2-seconds-a-meaningful-time-scale","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/labs.la.utexas.edu\/gilden\/is-2-seconds-a-meaningful-time-scale\/","title":{"rendered":"Is 2 Seconds a Meaningful Time Scale"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\"><strong><em>Is 2 Seconds a Meaningful Time Scale?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It may be a complete coincidence that music loses its coherence on the same time scale as concepts lose their activation.\u00a0 There are two ways to work with the possibility of coincidence.\u00a0 One is to look at a range of other ways in which the mind puts things together and examine their decay properties.\u00a0 The other is to find some reason why 2 seconds might be an important and organizing time interval for human behavior and cognition.\u00a0 Here are a few examples of the research in my laboratory on the issue of universality:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rhythm<\/strong>. The feeling of rhythm is a good example of Gestalt.\u00a0 When you tap out a beat there are two levels of awareness.\u00a0 There is the tap level of analysis which is like the vertices of the triangle and there is the feeling of rhythm which is like the experience of the triangle.\u00a0 The feeling of rhythm is an emergent experience.\u00a0 How slow can a person tap out a rhythm?\u00a0 This is hard to measure because you have to keep people from counting.\u00a0 It is always possible to subdivide any interval with precise counting.\u00a0 How does counting become precise? By putting the\u00a0 counts into an interval where the experience of rhythm survives. \u00a0Try and tap out an rhythm where each beat is separated by 3 seconds. You will soon discover that you have no idea what 3 seconds is if you are prevented from counting (say by doing a secondary visual task which is what we did).\u00a0 When people try to tap out such a slow beat they end up meandering between 1 or 2 seconds and 4 or 5.\u00a0 They execute what is formally known as a random walk, slowly drifting faster and then slower.\u00a0 The adjacent graph gives an example from our experiment when a person was initially exposed to a beep that sounded every 3 seconds so that they would know the required interval to produce.\u00a0 The beep was then turned off and they had to press the space bar on the computer every 3 seconds, or what they thought was 3 seconds, 100 times.\u00a0\u00a0 The graph shows their 3 second estimates in the order that they occurred.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<p align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/labs.la.utexas.edu\/gilden\/files\/2016\/04\/sw3second5.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-278\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-278 size-full\" src=\"\/\/labs.la.utexas.edu\/gilden\/files\/2016\/04\/sw3second5.jpg\" alt=\"sw3second(5)\" width=\"350\" height=\"324\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This person soon lost track of what 3 seconds really is and started the wandering process.\u00a0 So the metronome actually serves two purposes.\u00a0 It prevents musicians from being given music that they could not hear and it prevents conductors from attempting to slow the music down to the point where nobody has any idea where the next beat is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Synesthesia<\/strong>.\u00a0 One of the most compelling properties of music is the sense of space that it creates.\u00a0 This is literally true; I am not speaking in metaphor.\u00a0 Flutes and sopranos give a sense of elevation.\u00a0 Tubas, basses, and bassos give a sense of rootedness and depth.\u00a0 The sense we have of space when listening to music is another good example of emergence.\u00a0 There is no spatial height in the fluctuations in air pressure that are encoded as pitch.\u00a0 All of the spatial association is a pure product of neural processing in the mind of a perceiving animal.\u00a0 The ultimate reason for the spatial equivalence of pitch and height may be that they are both mapped into cortex in similar ways.\u00a0 By poking electrodes into the brains of unsuspecting animals psychologists have learned that neighboring pitches are processed in neighboring patches of auditory cortex and that neighboring parts of the retina are processed in neighboring parts of primary visual cortex.\u00a0 David Hubel and Torsten Weisel won the Nobel prize when they discovered these mapping properties in vision.\u00a0 This is an enormously interesting story and it may be the reason why notes can be put together into melodies in the first place. (Odors are not mapped not into cortex and I have never experienced an odor melody).\u00a0 At the level of cortical representation there may be little difference between a landscape and a tune.<\/p>\n<p>We can use the height properties of pitch to do a very simple experiment in synesthesia.\u00a0 On each trial the participant hears either a low tone or a high tone.\u00a0 Some time later a dot is presented either at the top or at the bottom of the computer screen.\u00a0 The participant has to indicate with a keypress where the dot is located, top or bottom.\u00a0 When the tone precedes the dot by a second or less, people are invariable faster in the combinations (high tone, top of screen; low tone, bottom of screen).\u00a0 This is because the tone activates not only other tones, but also relative spatial position.\u00a0 However, when the dot is delayed by a couple of seconds, the advantage for space-pitch consistency disappears.\u00a0 The activation has decayed.\u00a0 The data from our experiment is shown in the adjacent figure.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/labs.la.utexas.edu\/gilden\/files\/2016\/04\/pattern-graph6.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-279\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-279 size-full\" src=\"\/\/labs.la.utexas.edu\/gilden\/files\/2016\/04\/pattern-graph6.jpg\" alt=\"pattern graph(6)\" width=\"460\" height=\"213\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<p>Reaction time is here expressed with the mean removed and scaled by the overall variability (this is known as standardizing the data).\u00a0 The data in the left panel is for a time delay of 1\/2 second.\u00a0 Negative scores indicate fast response times (faster than the mean to be exact).\u00a0 At this point the synesthesia is quite strong.\u00a0 The data in the right panel is for a time delay of 3 seconds.\u00a0 The error bars for all of this data overlap 0.\u00a0 For standardized data this indicates that all effects have been squashed.\u00a0 At 3 seconds out there is no activation of position by pitch height.<\/p>\n<p>These simple experiments all illustrate a common point; organization in time has a threshold of about 2 seconds.\u00a0 Whenever two or more things are experienced in time, they have to be experienced within about a 2 second window for the emergent property to take hold.\u00a0 This is true for listening to music, for rhythmic movement, for trains of thought, and for synesthesia.\u00a0 The reason for this seems to come down to activation. Emergent properties such as melody happen when notes generate overlapping patterns of activation.\u00a0 If the activation dies out, there is no overlap, and there is no emergent contour.\u00a0 The metronome is limited to 40 bpm because this reflects the time period over which activation decays.\u00a0 Music just happens to be an enormously fine example of a place where the memory constraint applies.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/labs.la.utexas.edu\/gilden\/measuring-the-course-of-activation-produced-by-concepts\/\">Previous: Measuring the Course of Activation Produced by Concepts<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/labs.la.utexas.edu\/gilden\/energy-expense-in-gait-produces-a-time-scale\/\">Next: Energy Expense in Gait Produces a Time Scale<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is 2 Seconds a Meaningful Time Scale? 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